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June 21, 2005

Schiavo Tombstone

Terri’s “husband” refused to tell her parents when and where her ashes were to be buried and had the audacity to inscribe “I kept my promise” on her tombstone (HT: Drudge). This man is an adulterer. If he had kept his promise to Terri, he wouldn’t have had children with another woman while still married. His abuse of her and her family is disgraceful and this final thumb in the eye makes me sick.

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Posted by Rick at June 21, 2005 01:56 PM

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I couldn't agree with you more!

This man is evil. Even after she is dead he defaults to the most selfish and abusive behavior. I can't get my head around someone being so blatantly cruel as to have THIS as the tombstone!


I keep thinking about her family. These poor people, to have to sit back and watch the woman be murdered and then to gets kicked when they are down.

Posted by: Nehring at June 21, 2005 03:52 PM

Michael Schiavo may, or may not, have kept his promise to Terri. Yet we know that Michael promised to faithfull to Terri and he broke that promise.

I'd suspect that Michael's wording on Terri's tomestone was on advice of counsel. Rats do things like that.

Posted by: David L at June 21, 2005 05:54 PM

You write: 'Terri’s “husband” refused to tell her parents when and where her ashes were to be buried and had the audacity to inscribe “I kept my promise” on her tombstone (HT: Drudge). This man is an adulterer. If he had kept his promise to Terri, he wouldn’t have had children with another woman while still married.'

Irrespective of the fact that he broke his wedding vow, your remark here is disingenuous. It is obvious to you and everyone else that the promise in question is his promise to Terri not to allow her to be kept on life support. There is not a shred of evidence to discredit Michael's claim that he and Terri had such an agreement; or do you claim secret knowledge -- private revelation from God, perhaps? -- of their most intimate conversations that no one else has?

You continue: "His abuse of her and her family is
disgraceful and this final thumb in the eye
makes me sick."

What makes me sick is how fanatics like you villify anyone who doesn't happen to share your reactionary worldview. "This man is evil" writes your sycophant Nehring. This charge worthy of the Taliban, but it doesn't belong in American discourse about private matters. Keep your intrusive religion out of my house.

Posted by: Cisco at June 22, 2005 12:00 PM

Well, at least Michael Schiavo's callousness toward the Schindler family is on display for all to see.

Posted by: Kathy at June 22, 2005 01:58 PM

Cisco,

"Keep your religion out of my house," you write. But this post is on our blog. You're welcome to read and comment, but how did this become your house. Cool down. Regardless of your position on Michael Schiavo's actions regarding the feeding tube, it is difficult not to recognize that this final act was mean- spirited and vindictive.

Such hate serves no one well.

Posted by: Jim Jewell at June 22, 2005 08:44 PM

I agree with Cisco. A statement as strong as "this man is evil" shouldn't be tossed around so lightly.

Posted by: karl at June 23, 2005 11:07 AM

Just when did he promise not to have children with someone else? Did you read his wedding vows? Is it any of your business anyhow?

Posted by: John at July 27, 2005 08:39 AM

cisco, I wonder why you assume That he and Terri had such a conversation about life support. From what I heard , it only came to light in court procedings after he had taken up with the other women. Where is the shred of evidence of a wish to die?

Posted by: thomas at July 27, 2005 09:00 AM

cisco, I wonder why you assume That he and Terri had such a conversation about life support. From what I heard , it only came to light in court procedings after he had taken up with the other women. Where is the shred of evidence of a wish to die?

Posted by: thomas at July 27, 2005 09:07 AM

Michael's family business is the business of no one else; not the governor's, not mine, not the media's. Terri's parents imposed themselves into Terri & Michael's family circumstances. If the couple had any evidence of privacy - I haven't seen it.

Noah

Posted by: Noah Givens at July 27, 2005 09:08 AM

Cisco
There is also not one shred of evidence that Teri wanted to be off of life support.

Posted by: Bud at July 27, 2005 09:25 AM

Let's see... First off, it was HER parents who encouraged him to find someone else. The fact he had a relationship only became an issue when Terri's PARENTS wanted to make him look like an ogre, and they totally ignored the fact it was their idea that he go out and find companionship because he was spending all of his time caring for her. Second off, he was offered several million dollars to just walk away and leave Terri's care to her parents. Third off, the autopsy preformed by the state of Florida PROVED that their continued claims that Terri was abused were lies. It's time to let it go. This is (as it always has been) in God's hands. NOT YOURS. Those whom lied and have committed sins in this matter will be judged by GOD. That is God's ball court, do you really think you can do his job?

Posted by: me at July 27, 2005 09:45 AM

She was already dead! He did keep his promise to her. She died long before her body did.

I can't for the life of me figure out, or know what to think of people that wanted to force that poor woman to live in a crumpled up broken down body for the rest of her life. What a miserable existence. What selfishness.

The autopsy proved it, she almost had no brain. She was dead folks. Get over it. And get over him, he did the right thing.

Posted by: Jack at July 27, 2005 09:57 AM

Karl, there is also no shred of evidence that Terri wanted to be ON life support either. Or do you also have some magical powers that are not available to the rest of us not directly involved in that marriage?

Posted by: Scott at July 27, 2005 10:17 AM

But he DID keep his promise to work for her wishes despite the best efforts of her own family, the government of Florida, and the government of the US. That's quite a statement, and certainly an effort significant enough to be marked on the tombstone. As for "his abuse of her," do you have proof that he abused her? Because, you know, you should come forward since nobody who investigated the case was able to find this proof despite a very careful investigation.

Posted by: Chris Carlin at July 27, 2005 10:20 AM

You guys are backwards. In all the media I always saw Tarri's parent demonizing him. I only hope my wife has the same courage to let me finally rest if I were in the same condition. His promise was to his wife and that promise was kept. Now get off your elitist holier than thou pedal stools and let her finaly rest in peace. She has finaly broken the bonds of earth is now with her creator. What can be more loving and unselfish than to allow her this.

Posted by: Caleb at July 27, 2005 10:26 AM

We should give Mr. Schaivo the benefit of the doubt. His promise may have been, "I'll kill you b***h'"

Posted by: Rick B. at July 27, 2005 10:28 AM

You people need to get a life, and let the topic die.

Posted by: bill at July 27, 2005 10:58 AM

We won't know until the end...that is when the truth will be made known and we will finally be able to put the questions to this situation to rest. Who knows, we may all be surprised, He may have killed her (thus keeping one promise) and she may not have wanted to live that way (another possible promise). Either way, her death was needless and somebody got away with murder.

Posted by: Mike at July 27, 2005 11:18 AM

Get over it, sheesh.

Posted by: Roger Wilson at July 27, 2005 11:47 AM

Y'all, she's dead... And not coming back... Can we find something a little more relevant to be so passionate about, please?

Posted by: Ray at July 27, 2005 11:59 AM

The inquiries have been made, investigations done, medical tests and autopsies galore, all showing absolutely no wrongdoing on the part of Michael Schiavo, nor any evidence that there ever was.

And yet, all you armchair evangelists, unrelated to the people involved, utterly ignorant of anything remotely close to the facts, continue with your relentless and irrational harping, hide in the comfort of anonymity, and spew all sorts of idiotic invective.

If you people are supposed to be God's faithful followers, no wonder agnosticism is on the rise.

Please do the world a trmendous favor: Wad up your tinfoil hats, stuff them in your mouths, and choke on them.

Posted by: DW at July 27, 2005 12:03 PM

The only crime or act of evil in this whole affair was keeping her alive for 15 years in that condition! Animals are treated with more dignity than humans!
Even if she could recognize friends and family(which she couldn't) it would be cruel to keep her like that!
Christ people, get over yourselves! Let people that deserve to go out with dignity, go that way. Not plugged up to machines for years so you can make yourselves feel better!

Posted by: D-man at July 27, 2005 12:47 PM

I wonder how many people commenting have been through this heart-wrenching ordeal?

I have. I made the decision to allow my mother to die rather than be kept on life support with severe brain damage. I still fully believe it was the right thing to do, even though the emotional burden on me personally has been very high. And yes, I am a Christian.

Posted by: Mike at July 27, 2005 12:50 PM

There wouldn't even be this discussion if Michael had stated from the beginning that she wouldn't have wanted to be on a feeding tube to extend her life indefinately. The only reason that there is so much contention about this case is because for years Michael didn't say this, he testified in court that she wanted to live and that he wanted to take care of her for the rest of her natural life. It was only when he had been living with his girlfriend and she was pregnant that he 'remembered' her wish that she not live this way....

Why would it have taken 8 years to remember this wish? Why the insistance that she had to die, why not just turn her over to her parents to care for her? This is what I don't understand....

I know that it isn't my family, but when you have family members that disagree with a decision like this it puts the decision in the limelight. These are questions that kind of make us feel that maybe something isn't quite right here, that there may be more than meets the eye.

Caleb,

"You guys are backwards. In all the media I always saw Tarri's parent demonizing him. I only hope my wife has the same courage to let me finally rest if I were in the same condition..."

This is an agonizing case, just think if it was your son or daughter that was going to be ordered to die of dehydration at the suggestion of an estranged spouse (estranged because he was currently living with another woman who was pregnant with his child).... how would you feel? I couldn't imagine the horror of thinking that this was a nightmare that I couldn't wake up and get out of. Appeal after appeal, and then to have to watch while your daughter slowly dies... in a manner that you would be arrested if you did to your dog, this was their baby... If I had any belief that my son or daughter-in-law had other reasons to want my son or daughter to die I would fight tooth and nail to save my child..... How could you not, and call yourself a parent????

How many people on this board would want an estranged spouse or ex-spouse to make this decision for them????

Posted by: debsay at July 27, 2005 04:10 PM

Terri had obviously been dead for many years. The efforts of the family were only prolonging the death agony for both her and her husband. This brought no benefit to Terri but condemned her husband to a purgatory of caring for her remains. As a Christian, I believe that death occurrs when the soul departs the body. Terri's soul was obviously gone. Maybe one day we will be able to restore dead brain cells. Until then, it is sinful to ignore God's will and use machines to maintain the appearance of life in a mortal shell that is no longer inhabited by the soul.

Posted by: Bill at July 27, 2005 04:36 PM

He promised not to let her live in a persistent vegetative state. He loved her enough to go through the he11 of public condemnation to keep that promise. Her autopsy showed that she had no higher brain function could not see or speak or hear or conceive a thought. Nothing but an empty vessel trapped in limbo between death and the hereafter. He set her FREE! As for the charge of unfaithfulness: After years of devotion to her rehabilitation he finally accepted the fact that the Terri he knew was dead and that her body should be allowed to follow. It was only after he had grieved and made the formal request to have Terri's desire's carried out that he got on with his life. It is sad that so many people are so full of themselves that they believe they know better than the ones that have lived the events. Based on only a biased sound bite they decide who is the good guy and who is the bad guy. Read the case transcripts. Those condemning him have done so to score cheep political points and hoodwink many well-meaning people out of their hard earned cash.

Posted by: Ron at July 27, 2005 05:02 PM

"I'm from the federal government and I'm here to help."

If Ted Kennedy says it - it's a lie.

If Rick Santorum says it - it's still a lie.

Posted by: Ferdinand von Dudelsack at July 27, 2005 05:53 PM

The arrogance of humans never ceases to amaze me. WTF do any of you people know about Terri Schiavo and her relationship with her husband? You're sick. Mind your own business please, you're pissing God off by judging Michael Schiavo.

Posted by: Trevor at July 27, 2005 07:02 PM

GET A LIFE, PEOPLE!

She was DEAD, and all the damned equipment in the world didn't make her alive.

The autopsy proved it.

It wasn't your business or the governments to be involved. It was between her husband and the doctors as to that state. The doctors, because they are capable of expressing a disinterested professional opinion, and the husband, because he was next of kin.

So GET OVER IT.

Posted by: The Reaper at July 27, 2005 09:04 PM

He should have pulled the plug years ago out of love. His only mistake was to wait so long, but that was'nt his choice. You know you wouldn't want to live like that. Be honest with yourselves.

Posted by: Greg at July 27, 2005 09:09 PM

Quite a bit of invective, right-to-die folks.

As much outrage as you seem to summon for the statement "this man is evil" - I can't see how the majority of the con statements are any better.

In fact, most are a cut above, invective-wise, anything the original post said.

To the commenter who said "get out of my house" - as a fellow blogger/domain owner...

It is VERY unwise to say such things while on the property of the person you are saying it to. It's downright foolish, actually. If you have so little understanding about where you are, you cannot be expected to hold an informed opinion on anything else. Keep that in mind.

Posted by: RazorsKiss at July 28, 2005 01:14 AM

If he promised her (while she was alive) that he would never let her live like that, then the tombstone was appropriate and a good farewell. Everyone involved will meet their maker and be judged then, not by humans here on earth.

I think the parents were forcing her to remain alive (if you call it that) for the selfish reason of keeping their personal hopes alive. If that is the case they will be judged accordingly by something more pure than myself.

Posted by: Nathan at July 28, 2005 07:42 AM

Anyone who does not remember our eugenics history, should take a look at "War Against the Weak" by Edwin Black. The court verdict (murder by starvation & dehydration) of Terri is a selection process. The strong against the weak. Who makes the value call, as to whose life has value and thus worthy of living? We are practicing selection just as the Nazi government did. We are victims of propaganda. If society does not value your life, simple - eliminate them! Who wants to be next in line? I for one nominate everyone who does not place value on human life.

Posted by: Bettina at November 1, 2005 11:34 PM