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November 08, 2005
Evangelicals and the Environment
Scroll down to the second point of this post. Fr. Neuhaus is none too happy about the National Association of Evangelicals joining up with certain environmental groups.
Neither am I.
Posted by Matt at November 8, 2005 10:44 AM
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I'm no fan of the global warming bill, but I don't thing the NAE is working with the Sierra Club, as the article suggests. Even Jim Ball, executive director of the Evangelical Environmental Network (and a bit on the fringe), continues to have very nasty things to say about the Sierra Club.
Posted by: bruce at November 8, 2005 11:58 AM
The article says:
"failure to recognize that radical environmentalists are advancing an ideology that is in many ways incompatible with a biblical worldview."
But fails to enumerate HOW exactly it is that radical environmentalists are advancing an unbiblical worldview. Could someone here provide an answer?
Posted by: Dan Trabue at November 8, 2005 04:22 PM
If it helps, I'll post the Sierra Club's Mission Statement and we can explore where THAT group is "advancing an ideology that is incompatible with a biblical worldview." (Since it's the one mentioned above.)
Our Mission Statement
1.Explore, enjoy and protect the wild places of the earth.
2.Practice and promote the responsible use of the earth's ecosystems and resources.
3.Educate and enlist humanity to protect and restore the quality of the natural and human environment.
4.Use all lawful means to carry out these objectives.
Where is the antibiblical thought in this, please?
I'm not trying to harass anyone. It's just the Christians (and people in general) make more sense when they speak in specifics instead of wild mischaracterizations. If you're concerned about a group's behavior, tell us about the outrageous behavior and we can be shocked and outraged with you.
But don't say, "radical environmentalists" are out against God, church and applie pie without some backing. It hurts your position and weakens God's body by association.
Posted by: Dan Trabue at November 9, 2005 01:46 PM
If you want specifics about the Sierra Club's incompatibility with a Biblical worldview check out their stance on "family planning." They promote abortion rights as a way to control the world population. See this page:
http://www.sierraclub.org/population/
Posted by: Luke at November 11, 2005 08:33 AM
Thank you very much for trying to provide some reasoning for your positions. I looked through the site you sent me to.
I assume you're suggesting that under SC's family planning policies, they include a position that finds abortion acceptable? (And for the record, I'm opposed to "abortions of convenience" but also want medical decisions to remain in the parent's hands, not Big Gov't's.)
Here's what the main document says:
"UNFPA [the org that SC supports] assists women in avoiding unwanted pregnancies, ensures safe pregnancy and childbirth, prevents transmitted diseases, combats violence against women and promotes women's equality...
...the loss of US funding could undermine UNFPA's capacity to prevent 800,000 abortions and the deaths of 4,700 mothers and 77,000 children under the age of five per year."
So, they're endorsing a program that is trying to PREVENT abortions and increase healthcare. (And while I couldn't find it, I assume that this group is not opposed to the medical procedure of abortion in and of itself, but is interested in keeping them safe and rare).
Doesn't sound so radical to me. Is that your sole reason for considering SC a radical group or are there others?
Posted by: Dan Trabue at November 11, 2005 09:47 AM
I know the work of the National Association of Evangelicals and the Evangelical Environmental Network on this issue. Father Neuhaus, for whom I have a great deal of respect, has connected dots that are not connected and misread the evangelical action on the climate change issue. Their motivations, strategies, and ends are far different than extreme, leftist, environmentalists.
The article in the New York Times was full of inaccuracies--suprise, surprise--and evangelicals should hold fire until they have more information about the NAE, EEN, and a host of evangelical leaders that are looking at this issue anew. There will be some major activity on this in this next few months.
Posted by: Jim Jewell at November 13, 2005 08:44 AM
Talk about those wild environmental extremists, THIS guy sounds like an eco-terrorist for sure:
The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great — and for destroying those who destroy the earth.
Revelation 11:18
Posted by: Dan Trabue at November 17, 2005 10:18 AM