{"id":1336,"date":"2009-01-22T23:14:13","date_gmt":"2009-01-23T04:14:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stonescryout.org\/?p=1336"},"modified":"2009-01-22T23:14:13","modified_gmt":"2009-01-23T04:14:13","slug":"those-doomed-to-repeat-history","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stonescryout.org\/?p=1336","title":{"rendered":"Those Doomed To Repeat History?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ed Darrell quoted <a href=\"http:\/\/timpanogos.wordpress.com\/2009\/01\/20\/quote-of-the-moment-richard-halverson-chaplain-of-the-us-senate\/\" target=\"_blank\">this the other day<\/a>, and I disparaged it. Mr Darrell gets exasperated when history is misquoted, misused or ignored. Which is ironic because this quote, ignores, misuses and offers a mistaken interpretation of history. The quote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cIn the beginning the church was a fellowship of men and women centering on the living Christ. Then the church moved to Greece, where it became a philosophy. Then it moved to Rome, where it became an institution. Next, it moved to Europe, where it became a culture. And, finally, it moved to America, where it became an enterprise.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Shall we consider just a few ways in which this was wrong?<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>There was no &#8220;church&#8221; when Jesus was performing his ministry <em>prior<\/em> to the resurrection. The church thing followed immediately <em>after <\/em>His Resurrection.<\/li>\n<li>Then the church moved to Asia Minor, Greece, Egypt, Rome, India and throughout the Mediterranean.<\/li>\n<li>The church was well established in Rome, recall Saints Peter <em>and<\/em> Paul were martyred in Rome well before Origen (a Alexandrian Copt) turned the tools of philosophy to the service of theology.<\/li>\n<li>Examine the early &#8220;Greek&#8221; church, and their early founders. St. Cyril and St. Athanasius &#8230; of Alexandria (Copts). The three Ecumenical Heirarchs, Saints Basil the Great, Gregory the Theologian and John Chrysostom &#8230; all Cappadocian, i.e., modern day Turkey (hint: not Greece). In fact, I have trouble identifying right off any prominent Greek Saints from Early Antiquity.<\/li>\n<li>Next actually examine the Eastern church which came out of &#8220;Greece&#8221;. It is known for its mysticism not its Aquinan\/Aristotelian philosophical logic.<\/li>\n<li>The Christian church&#8217;s movement to Rome didn&#8217;t make it an institution. It made it a persecuted cult. Three centuries later, when &#8220;Rome&#8221; was supplanted by Constantinople as the capitol it became a state religion. It is dogma among modern political philosophers, who are amazingly ignorant of the next 1000 years of the Roman state, that state and religion don&#8217;t mix. They look at the Reformation and English history for their ideas on that. Conveniently ignoring any historical trends which don&#8217;t fit their preconceptions.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>And that&#8217;s just a start.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ed Darrell quoted this the other day, and I disparaged it. Mr Darrell gets exasperated when history is misquoted, misused or ignored. Which is ironic because this quote, ignores, misuses and offers a mistaken interpretation of history. The quote: \u201cIn the beginning the church was a fellowship of men and women centering on the living [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[30,58,29],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1336","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-christianity","category-marko","category-religion"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stonescryout.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1336","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stonescryout.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stonescryout.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stonescryout.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stonescryout.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1336"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stonescryout.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1336\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stonescryout.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1336"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stonescryout.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1336"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stonescryout.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1336"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}