{"id":3243,"date":"2010-05-03T22:33:57","date_gmt":"2010-05-04T03:33:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stonescryout.org\/?p=3243"},"modified":"2010-05-03T22:38:18","modified_gmt":"2010-05-04T03:38:18","slug":"the-question-of-augustine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stonescryout.org\/?p=3243","title":{"rendered":"The Question of Augustine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of the wonderful moments in St. Augustine&#8217;s <em>Confessions<\/em> returned to me in force from out of the blue. Now, I&#8217;ve not been a   Christian for long in my adult life, having been raised within the fold   of the Church, but having fallen away for 20 years of my adult life   until fairly recently. The point of that observation is that regular and   ordinary Christian culture is often new to me. The point of that  observation is that I have questions about my experiences now as a  Christian for which I lack the context and background of one who has  been within the community for that missing time as an adult. This  question in turn requires a little background or stage setting, which in  turn can be found below the fold. <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>One of the struggles that Augustine underwent and  recounted in his <em>Confessions<\/em> was about chastity. He felt that he  couldn&#8217;t become Christian unless  he was celibate. Now he was, in his own  view, something of a ladies man  and had additionally a long term  relationship with a woman whom by  customs of the time because of station  and class he would perhaps be  unable to marry. Now today as then,  normally becoming Christian did not  automatically entail a vow of  chastity, even if it did mean  restricting sex only between those who  were married. Yet for Augustine  &#8230; this was not the case. And he makes  the reason for this implicitly  if not explicitly clear. Augustine could  not be within the church  without being celibate because he was too large  for that. Augustine was  destined for a life of intellectual and personal  heroism. In secular  life he was one of the most renowned rhetoricians  &#8230; and he was  reaching the height of his powers. Plato, Socrates,  Thales, and Cicero  have names which are remembered today because they  had an unusual  clarity of vision. Augustine recognised in himself that  he was peer  group. He could not be anything and apply himself fully to it, without  that sort of renown.\u00a0 Essentially Augustine could not  become an  &#8220;ordinary&#8221; Christian but knew that if he was to become Christian he  could not do so without fully embracing the full heroic and complete  vision  of the Christian life. At that time the  Christian heroic ideals  was chaste, that is to say both unmarried and celibate.<\/p>\n<p>It is true that today this  particular vision of what constitutes  Christian heroism has been  uniquely rejected by the Protestant West,  but that is not the point to  which I am driving. Compared to the  question to which I am aiming, it  is comparatively unimportant (this is  a hint that it this particular  matter I hope will not become a  highlight in the comment thread). The  key element to be extracted from  Augustine&#8217;s reflection is the following  &#8230; and it is a point which  might be asked even of persons in any walk  of life. Augustine on  reaching the threshold of becoming Christian put  for himself the  highest goal possible. If he was going to be Christian  he was going to  be a Saint (capitalised). He was not going to be  ordinary. He was not  going to be lukewarm about this thing but would  embrace it fully with  all his heart, with all his mind, and all his  soul. He would put all  his effort, all his training and skill in  rhetoric to the service of  God and the Church.<\/p>\n<p>So, the question  that arises is &#8230; why don&#8217;t I do the same? Why do I  not aspire to be a capital &#8220;S&#8221; Saint? Why do I fail to seek that sort of  life? For that matter, why don&#8217;t you? Or do you  think that you do? One  reason or excuse I give myself is that I have a  responsibility to my  children. But in a decade they will be out of the  house. What will I  (or should I) then do?<\/p>\n<p>Or to make the question more generic. If  you undertake to do anything, why would you not aspire to be a peer of  those who are counted great in that field? Should aspirations of  greatness not be a default?<\/p>\n<div><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/img.zemanta.com\/pixy.gif?x-id=3dc677a0-1f24-8f6e-b43d-a6d16cd72e90\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the wonderful moments in St. Augustine&#8217;s Confessions returned to me in force from out of the blue. Now, I&#8217;ve not been a Christian for long in my adult life, having been raised within the fold of the Church, but having fallen away for 20 years of my adult life until fairly recently. 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