{"id":534,"date":"2008-08-28T12:47:10","date_gmt":"2008-08-28T16:47:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stonescryout.org\/?p=534"},"modified":"2008-08-28T13:18:36","modified_gmt":"2008-08-28T17:18:36","slug":"speaker-pelosi-love-the-church-their-teachings-not-so-much","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stonescryout.org\/?p=534","title":{"rendered":"Speaker Pelosi Loves the Church; Their Teachings Not So Much"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Catholic church has had to correct the thinking of some Democrats in the past in reference to the church&#8217;s position on abortion.\u00a0 (Well, they&#8217;ve <em>spoken out<\/em> in the past; there&#8217;s no evidence yet that the actual thinking was corrected.)\u00a0 Most recently, the Speaker of the House herself has come under fire for <a href=\"http:\/\/apnews.myway.com\/article\/20080828\/D92R51M81.html\" target=\"_blank\">misrepresenting Church teaching<\/a> in order to buttress her own views.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Politics can be treacherous. But House Speaker Nancy Pelosi walked on even riskier ground in a recent TV interview when she attempted a theological defense of her support for abortion rights.<\/p>\n<p>Roman Catholic bishops consider her arguments on St. Augustine and free will so far out of line with church teaching that they have issued a steady stream of statements to correct her.<\/p>\n<p>The latest came Wednesday from Pittsburgh Bishop David Zubik, who said Pelosi, D-Calif., &#8220;stepped out of her political role and completely misrepresented the teaching of the Catholic Church in regard to abortion.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It has been a harsh week of rebuke for the Democratic congresswoman, a Catholic school graduate who repeatedly has expressed pride in and love for her religious heritage.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Enough &#8220;pride&#8221; and &#8220;love&#8221; for her to, y&#8217;know, accept her Church&#8217;s teaching?\u00a0 Apparently not.\u00a0 The &#8220;steady stream&#8221; of corrections don&#8217;t seem to do much.\u00a0 More below the fold&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Cardinals and archbishops in Washington, D.C., Philadelphia, New York and Denver are among those who have criticized her remarks. Archbishop George Niederauer, in Pelosi&#8217;s hometown of San Francisco, will take up the issue in the Sept. 5 edition of the archdiocesan newspaper, his spokesman said.<\/p>\n<p>Sunday, on NBC&#8217;s &#8220;Meet the Press&#8221; program, Pelosi said &#8220;doctors of the church&#8221; have not been able to define when life begins.<\/p>\n<p>She also cited the role of individual conscience. &#8220;God has given us, each of us, a free will and a responsibility to answer for our actions,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>Brendan Daly, a spokesman for Pelosi, said in a statement defending her remarks that she &#8220;fully appreciates the sanctity of family&#8221; and based her views on conception on the &#8220;views of Saint Augustine, who said, &#8216;The law does not provide that the act (abortion) pertains to homicide, for there cannot yet be said to be a live soul in a body that lacks sensation.'&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But whether or not parishioners choose to accept it, the theology on the procedure is clear. From its earliest days, Christianity has considered abortion evil.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;This teaching has remained unchanged and remains unchangeable,&#8221; according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church. &#8220;Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The Rev. Douglas Milewski, a Seton Hall University theologian who specializes in Augustine, said Pelosi seems to be confusing church teaching on abortion with the theological debate over when a fetus receives a soul.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Saint Augustine wondered about the stages of human development before birth, how this related to the question of ensoulment and what it meant for life in the Kingdom of God,&#8221; Milewski said.<\/p>\n<p>Questions about ensoulment related to determining penalties under church law for early and later abortions, not deciding whether the procedure is permissible, according to the U.S. Bishops&#8217; Committee on Pro-Life Activities.<\/p>\n<p>Augustine was &#8220;quite clear on the immorality of abortion as evil violence, destructive of the very fabric of human bonds and society,&#8221; Milewski said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Basically, Speak Pelosi tried to get off on a technicality.\u00a0 St. Augustine&#8217;s opinion on the <em>legal<\/em> issues involved in abortion are one thing, but to conflate that with his opinion on the <em>morality<\/em> of it is one of the worst kinds of disingenuousness.<\/p>\n<p>And the Church&#8217;s position is pretty clear.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Catholic theologians today overwhelmingly consider debate over the morality of abortion settled. Thinkers and activists who attempt to challenge the theology are often considered on the fringes of church life.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yes, there is debate in the public sector about how a politician&#8217;s religious faith should affect his or her public life, but let&#8217;s look at it from a Catholic&#8217;s perspective (with the disclaimer that I&#8217;m Protestant).\u00a0 The Catholic church is definitely not in favor of abortion, calling it, as we&#8217;ve seen, &#8220;immoral&#8221; and &#8220;evil&#8221;, and that position hasn&#8217;t changed for centuries.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a question that it has grappled with during that entire time.\u00a0 This is nothing new; not some newly uncovered area that the 21st century has introduced to society.\u00a0 If their position on this isn&#8217;t enough to influence your decision, Speaker Pelosi, what is?\u00a0 Why even bring up your religion if it has no affect on you whatsoever?<\/p>\n<p>If you are proud of your religious heritage, one would think you are also proud of your religion&#8217;s teachings.\u00a0 But such is the dichotomy of Speaker Pelosi and other politicians who say they believe one thing but vote another.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Catholic church has had to correct the thinking of some Democrats in the past in reference to the church&#8217;s position on abortion.\u00a0 (Well, they&#8217;ve spoken out in the past; there&#8217;s no evidence yet that the actual thinking was corrected.)\u00a0 Most recently, the Speaker of the House herself has come under fire for misrepresenting Church [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,31,30,27,9,55,21,26,29],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-534","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-abortion","category-catholicism","category-christianity","category-democrats","category-doug","category-ethics-morality","category-liberal","category-politics","category-religion"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.0.1 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"The Catholic church has had to correct the thinking of some Democrats in the past in reference to the church&#039;s position on abortion. 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