{"id":6082,"date":"2013-12-23T20:34:27","date_gmt":"2013-12-24T01:34:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stonescryout.org\/?p=6082"},"modified":"2013-12-23T20:34:27","modified_gmt":"2013-12-24T01:34:27","slug":"things-heard-e282v1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stonescryout.org\/?p=6082","title":{"rendered":"Things Heard: e282v1"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Well, we\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.pseudopolymath.com\/?p=6799\" target=\"_blank\">made it<\/a>\u00a0to the East coast, i.e., Jersey. Today we were doing a college tour for my youngest.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>I don&#8217;t get cable, but apparently there is a &#8220;reality&#8221; show about Ducks &#8230; (two remarks on that\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2013\/12\/some-points-on-homosexuality.html\" target=\"_blank\">here\u00a0<\/a>and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/dsadevil.blogspot.com\/2013\/12\/free-speech-and-private-sphere.html\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>). Seems to me the situation is basically as follows, \u00a0the left purports to want to enter into &#8220;conversations about race\/gender\/marriage&#8221;, but they really don&#8217;t. If you really want to &#8220;have a conversation&#8221; when the other side speaks their mind, you reply, you engage in conversation, you &#8230;, uhm, talk. But no. What the left does is try to shut you down and fire you. That&#8217;s not engaging in conversation, that&#8217;s naked coercion. Persuasion by force and coercion (a) doesn&#8217;t work and (b) is highly unethical. So in the absence of people like Mr Schraub and the left leading (or at least entering) the hew and cry to reverse the suspension, those on the left are left with that unfortunate choice of asking themselves, &#8220;am I stupid or evil.&#8221; (the assumption here being that attempts at persuasion by coercion is evil). The first link makes an interesting point, you can&#8217;t refuse to sell a cake based on your beliefs, but you can be fired saying what you believe, hmm.<\/li>\n<li>Faith\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.firstthings.com\/blogs\/firstthoughts\/2013\/12\/23\/can-a-church-refuse-to-sell-property-because-of-a-buyers-religion\/\" target=\"_blank\">and commerce<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.frederica.com\/writings\/inside-llewyn-davis.html\" target=\"_blank\">Cinema<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>A really bad\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/madminerva.blogspot.com\/2013\/12\/fighting-fire-with-jet-fuel.html\" target=\"_blank\">whoops moment noted<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Theotokos\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/weekendfisher.blogspot.com\/2013\/12\/advent-something-mary-and-jesus-have-in.html\" target=\"_blank\">and Nativity<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Situation\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.isegoria.net\/2013\/12\/situational-awareness-and-good-sense\/\" target=\"_blank\">and being awake<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Obesity. I&#8217;ve seem some remarks about obesity and whether or not it\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/maverickphilosopher.typepad.com\/maverick_philosopher\/2013\/12\/obesity-is-not-a-disease.html\" target=\"_blank\">should be treated as a disease<\/a>\u00a0and why we so often blame the obese for their condition. I think the salient insight on why we tend to blame the obese for their condition in the US is that those of us who are not oveweight realize how easy it would be to eat to much and not exercise. The non-obese have to work at it to stay thin, their feeling is that those who are not thin just didn&#8217;t do their due diligence and got where they were.<\/li>\n<li>What the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/chicagoboyz.net\/archives\/40650.html\" target=\"_blank\">administration is setting aside<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>A book\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/ricochet.com\/main-feed\/Great-New-Book-on-Judicial-Engagement\" target=\"_blank\">noted<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Of war\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.isegoria.net\/2013\/12\/why-should-we-study-war\/\" target=\"_blank\">and human nature<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Well, we\u00a0made it\u00a0to the East coast, i.e., Jersey. Today we were doing a college tour for my youngest. I don&#8217;t get cable, but apparently there is a &#8220;reality&#8221; show about Ducks &#8230; (two remarks on that\u00a0here\u00a0and\u00a0here). 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