If You Blame The Right For Abortion Doctor Killings…
…(and his post has the quotes to show that many Lefty bloggers do), then Collin Brendemuehl wants to know if the Left is going to blame itself for what one of its "peace activists" did; killing a military recruiter.
The question is simple: Where is the contrition? Where is the self-deprecating admission that maybe, just maybe, the mainstream Left might be entirely wrong? They vandalize our nation and kill people and pretend that they have nothing to do with any of it. They protect the radicals and act like nothing is wrong.
(Ok, this is what I anticipate some them to say about this crime: The murderer was a convert to Islam and did this because he hated what Bush started. Bush made him do it. Right. And Nixon made Armstrong blow up the math building at UW.)
May they pretend to set an example by acknowledging that they might actually be doing what they contrive for us.
As of right now, big blogs from the left — Think Progress, TalkLeft, Talking Points Memo (can’t link to a search result) and Daily Kos — have absolutely nothing mentioning "William Long", the man who died in this killing.
And yet blogs on the Right are all over themselves denouncing the violence done, ironically, in the name of the pro-life movement. I’ll state for the record here that I find the killing of Dr. George Tiller absolutely wrong, just as wrong as the millions of abortions done each year, and just as wrong as killing a military recruiter who is posing no threat to you.
Will the big voices of Left do the same? Or is their outrage so very selective?
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I can’t find anywhere that the soldier-killer was a peace activist. Is that the case?
It is, of course, wrong to kill soldiers because you are opposed to war. I’m just not sure that is the case in this case. From what I read, he is a Muslim who opposes the wars against Muslim people, and has not identified himself as being on “the Left” in general or being a peace activist specifically.
You don’t quite get that EVERYTHING is the Right’s fault. Probably up to and including disruptions in cell phone service caused by solar flares.
This article quotes police as saying he had both religious and political motives. Further:
This sounds like a “peace activist”, especially considering the kinds of sentiments you sometimes see at anti-war rallies (like this particular one).
Sure, the abortion doctor killer is a kook, but the Lefty blogs are conflating him with the mainstream anti-abortion movement. But the same situation occurs with one of their issues and they are, amazingly, silent on it. Completely and utterly silent.
Look, obviously, someone who was TRULY pro-life would not kill someone because they thought they were a killer themselves. Just as a peace activist would not resort to violence. These are contrary to the titles they hold.
Strictly speaking.
However, many pro-lifers are also pro-justified-violence types. And so, you see many folk saying things like, “yes, it was wrong, BUT…” Or here are some actual quotes from the pro-life side of things…
May God have mercy on his soul… but he got what he deserved…
I don’t care how this post makes me look to anyone reading this. The man was a murderer… he lived by the sword, and died by the sword. Justice is served…
no genuine Christian could, with clean and honest conscience, perform an abortion, let alone late-term and partial birth abortion. His faith was a sham…
Or here you have one of my more reasonable Right-ish friends suggesting this is the reasonable outcome one should expect from those who believe in justified violence to oppose the evil of abortion…
“Yet if you honestly believe abortion is the murder of helpless children, it’s hard to see why using deadly force against those who carry it out is immoral, especially since the government refuses to act…
Nor is it sufficient to note that killing Tiller was against the law. When the law blesses the murder of babies, it is hardly worthy of respect, any more than laws blessing the enslavement of Africans or the gassing of Jews were, and violent resistance against such enactments surely is justified in principle.”,
And when I questioned him on it, he responded…
DAN: So, what’s your position? I think it has been summed up well: IF abortion = murder and therefore evil and IF deadly violence to stop “evil,” is a moral good, THEN killing abortion doctors is a moral good.
Yes, it is.
And this from a guy that is generally quite reasonable. So, perhaps you can understand that, to some of us, when folk are using inflammatory language (“baby killers,” “Holocaust”) and even reasoning as above, we are somewhat skeptical of claims that they disapprove. It seems to be a reluctant disapproval, at best. At least in some cases.
Of course, I recognize that not everyone uses such extreme, demonizing language AND I recognize that extreme, demonizing language has been used by those on the more Leftish side of things, too. Words can be a dangerous thing.
For my part, I absolutely know that not every pro-lifer is so extreme, I would like to note. But there are many out there who are. Those are the ones I’m concerned about.
And I’m concerned about anti-war folks who don’t respond at all to a kook from their side of the aisle.
But this fella is NOT from “our side of the aisle,” as I have noted. Or do you have something suggesting he was either Left-leaning or a pacifist?
Look, I wouldn’t suggest that this abortion killer or the church killer in Tennessee (? I believe) last year were Rightwingers up front. Only later, when it turns out that that is exactly what they were did I have much to say about it. If it turned out this soldier killer was a pacifist, I would point out how wrong that was, too.
The difference is, as my conservative friend noted above, that pacifism, by its nature, would be opposed to this soldier killer. On the other hand, those on the Right who oppose abortion but who also believe in violence as a solution, the notion of killing one’s enemies is a basic tenet of their position. So, it is for this reason that we might reasonably be more concerned about some on the Right.
In other words, at least according to some on the Right, killing abortion doctors is the logical outcome of their views, while killing a soldier is antithetical to pacifism (although not necessarily the Left in general).
Not a pacifist in general, perhaps, but his “protest” was against war made against Muslim countries, so his anti-war feelings, while being rather focused, are still anti-war.
“Pro-life-ism”, by its nature, would oppose the cold-blooded killing of a person as well. Hence the name. That a case can be made for what some may consider a legitimate killing doesn’t change that any more than the sentiment shown at this link changes pacifism’s message.
The Left wants to blame Bill O’Reilly for Tiller’s death. But in making the case for that, while utterly ignoring the killing of our own military men at home, is the Left going to police it’s own. A blog post on the death of William Long could very easily include a repudiation of their own kooks. Apparently, it’s not all that important to them.
You keep saying this guy was on the Left side of things. I keep asking for proof.
He was an anti-war guy, upset about US military actions against Iraq and other Muslim nations. The “kook” part comes in when you see the signs of anti-war protesters suggesting that they support US troops when they kill other US troops.
Many (Rightwing) conservatives are opposed to our war in Iraq, too. That doesn’t make them Left wing.
So, it seems your sole “evidence” that he is a left winger is that he was opposed to this war. That doesn’t quite make the case, though.
The Right did not wait for beyond-a-reasonable-doubt evidence that the killer of George Tiller was a member of a certain denomination or cult or even nominally Christian to condemn the act. It could be construed as an attack from the Right, and so it was denounced.
Yet still the blogs on the Left have absolutely nothing at all (check my links in the original post) regarding William Long. Even the President (finally, eventually) got around to issuing a statement on this, but nothing from the Left-side blogosphere.
If I were a betting man, I’d take the bet that this man voted for Obama. I might be wrong, but I think the odds would clearly be on my side. Apparently the Left needs a higher level of confidence before they condemn a murder.